Civil List Debt: Army Debt, Irish Claims

Calendar of Treasury Books, Volume 17, 1702. Originally published by His Majesty's Stationery Office, London, 1939.

Citation:

'Civil List Debt: Army Debt, Irish Claims', in Calendar of Treasury Books, Volume 17, 1702, ed. William A Shaw( London, 1939), British History Online https://prod.british-history.ac.uk/cal-treasury-books/vol17/pp1081-1098 [accessed 27 November 2024].

Army Debt, Irish Claims

A State of the Londonderry and Enniskillen Claims.

Claims made by the Trustees for the Officers and soldiers of Londonderry.



					£	s.	d.
T 38/798, p. 1.	Capt. Robert Beard and Mr. William Hamel, as trustees for the Officers and soldiers who served their late Majesties in the siege of Londonderry in 1689, and for such as served afterwards during the war in Ireland as supernumerary or Reformed Officers, claimed the sum of 125151l. 8s. 4d. (fn. 1) By two deeds both dated 16 Jan. 1701–1 the said Beard and Hamel and John Fellow were constituted as such Trustees by Col. John Mitchelborn and a great number of the Londonderry Officers and soldiers to sue for their arrears.
p. 2.	In pursuance thereof Mr. Hamel exhibited to us his demand for Col. Mitchelborn's Regiment amounting to 9570l. 16s. 8d. and in support thereof produced to us a report dated 21 April 1691 made to the Treasury Lords by Charles Fox. Mitchelborn was confirmed in command of Col. Skeffington's Regiment by commission dated 10 March 1689 when it consisted of 13 Companies; so that allowing them complete there is due to them from 5 Feb. 1688–9 to 18 April 1689 (when they put themselves into Londonderry) being 73 days at 44l. 4s. 8d. per day the sum of				3229	0	8
	from 19 April to 7 Aug. following being 111 days (the time of the siege) they were composed of 17 Companies at 57l. 2s. 8d. per diem				6341	16	0
	(Memorandum: the personal pay of Col. Michelburne is assigned to Mr. Samuel Cardell in trust for the said Colonel).
T 38/198, p. 2.	Mr. Hamel further exhibited to us the demand for 6 Regiments, Walker's, Monrow's, Crofton's, Hamil's, Lance's and Murray's (being Regiments certified by Mitchelborn to be formed in Londonderry during the siege) amounting to				48941	12	0
	and for proof thereof produced the said Charles Fox's report of 1 March 1691–2 to the Treasury Lords setting forth that their case was fully stated by the Lords Committee for Irish Affairs but the abstract of the numbers of men and times of service depends only on the certificate of Col. Michelburne, then Governor of the place.
Ibid., p. 3.	The abstract as obtained by us from Mr. Pauncefort on the 27th Sept. 1708 is as follows:
		£	s.	d.
	Col. George Walker's Regiment 15 Companies of 60 men each from 5 Feb. 1688–9 to 12 Aug. 1689 when they were broke by Major-Gen. Kirk	9579	3	0
	Col. Henry Monrow's ditto of 13 like Companies for same time	8360	2	0
	Col. Richard Crofton's ditto of 12 like Companies, same time	7750	11	6
	Col. Hugh Hamel's, ditto of 14 like Companies, same time	8969	13	6
	Col. Thomas Lance's ditto of 13 like Companies, same time	8360	2	0
	Col. Adam Murray's ditto of 8 like Companies, same time	5312	9	6
					48332	1	6
	The difference between this abstract and the above demand is 609l. 10s. 6d. which is the pay of one Company for the said time.
	Mr. Hamel further exhibited the demand for the pay of Col. Baker's Regiment (being one of the Governors of Londonderry) of 26 Troops and Companies of Horse, Foot and Dragoons but their pay is charged in the account as Foot only				16720	4	0
Ibid., p. 4.	To prove this article he produced the King's warrants of 26 Aug. 1689, 16 Sept. 1689 and 27 Feb. 1689–90, and affidavits of the Officers detailed. He also exhibited to us a demand for a Company of Gunners, an Independent Company and a Company of Pioneers amounting to 3700l. 15s. 0d. as follows:
Ibid., p. 5.	a Company of Gunners, Officers and 60 men from 7 Dec. 1688 (when the gates were shut against the Earl of Antrim's Regiment) to 18 April 1689				3532	17	0
	Independent Company, Officers and 80 men from 19 July 1689 to 12 August				97	14	0
	a Captain and Lieutenant of Pioneers from 18 April 1689 to 12 August				70	4	0
	Lastly, Mr. Hamel exhibited to us a demand for the pay of 214 supernumerary Officers added by the King's order of 16 Sept. 1689 to the 3 Londonderry Regiments that stood during the war; amounting to				56024	16	0
	To prove this he produced the report and Establishment made 28 May 1691 by the Lords Committees of Irish Affairs which established 273 of the said Officers at 76l. 17s. 0d. per diem; but only 214 are charged at 54l. 18s. 0d. per diem, no more having served during the war in Ireland viz.:
	77 Reformed Officers of Col. White's Regiment from 12 Aug. 1689 to 31 March 1691				12853	10	0
	59 ditto of Col. St. Johns Regiment from 12 Aug. 1689 to 31 Dec. 1693				17627	5	0
	78 ditto of Col. Mitchelborn's Regiment for same time				25544	1	0
	(making in all 56024l. 16s. 10d.)
Ibid., p. 6.	The numbers are certified by the Colonels but the Order in Council of 8 Jan. 1689–90 desired the Treasury Lords to furnish money to Mr. Herbert, the Paymaster of those Forces in Ireland, as from 1 Oct. 1689, and if 2690l. 2s. 0d. be deducted for the period from 12 Aug. to 1 Oct. as not allowed, it reduces the above demand to				53334	14	0
	making a total demand of				131658	11	2
	towards which they acknowledged payments by the Paymaster General of the Army and others of				9806	15	4
	leaving due to the Officers and soldiers of the 8 Londonderry Regiments as above, an Independent Company, a Company of Gunners and Pioneers and 214 Supernumerary or Reformed Officers				£121851	15	10
Ibid., pp. 7–8.	All which claims were laid before the House of Commons (fn. 2) and referred to a Committee which reported 2 March 1705–6 (fn. 3) [the report being here entered in full] that there was due to the claimants 134,958l. 3s. 8d. whereof 9806l. 15s. 4d. had been received by several warrants and orders from their late Majesties William and Mary.
Ibid., pp. 9–10.	In 1707 the above Trustees applied to the House of Commons in Ireland whereupon that House addressed the Earl of Pembroke, Lord Lieutenant of Ireland 7 Oct. 1707 (fn. 4) [here given verbatim] setting forth the services and facts as above and the proceedings of the Parliament in England but that "by reason of some doubts arising upon the construction of the Act for stating and settling the accounts of the Army the Commissioners appointed by the said Act did not think fit to state the petitioners' accounts as in other cases, by reason whereof the petitioners could not be entitled to Debentures [on Irish lands] as other the Officers and soldiers of the Army were" and therefore desiring the Lord Lieutenant to transmit to the Queen the said petition.
	[The present report does not refer further to the futile proceedings in the House of Commons in FebMarch 1707–8 (fn. 5) on this subject but passes on to the final examination as follows of the remainder of the Londonderry claims].
Ibid., p. 11.	The said Trustees further claim for the pay of three Regiments of Foot that remained undisbanded after the siege of Londonderry to wit from 12 Aug. 1689 to the 1st Jan. 1689–90 (the day they were put upon the Establishment) being 141 days according to the musters taken for the months of Oct., Nov. and Dec. 1689 and at the pay allowed by a subsequent Establishment, which was to take place from 1 Jan. 1689–90. (Poundage and Hospital deducted): viz.:
	Col. John Mitchelborne's Regiment at 43l. 2s. 10d. per diem neat				5762	3	2½
	Col. Robert White's Regiment at 35l. 7s. 6d. per diem neat				4724	16	3¾
	Col. Thomas St. John's Regiment at 41l. 16s. 2d. per diem neat				5584	1	6¼
					£16071	1	0½
	Followed by: copy of the Establishment of the said 3 Regiments of Londonderry under the sign manual of Wm. III: to commence as from 1 Jan. 1689–90: consisting each of 13 Companies of 60 men in each Company or 2340 men in all besides Officers.
Ibid., p. 12.	"But his late Majesty having allowed them pay only from the 1st Oct. 1689 as by the recital in the forementioned Order of Council of 8 January 1689, the said number of days from 1 Oct. 1689 to 1st January following will be only 92 days and accordingly the full pay of the said three Regiments for that time will stand thus:
		£	s.	d.
	Col. Mitchelborne's	3969	0	8
	Col. White's	3254	10	0
	Col. St. Johns	3846	7	4
		£11069	18	0
	of which sum it doth not appear to us that any part hath been paid."
T 38/798, p. 12.	Total Londonderry Claims.
	The total claims of the 8 Londonderry Regiments				74623	2	2
	The total claims of Company of Gunners, Independent Company and Company of Pioneers				3700	15	0
	The total claims of 214 Supernumerary Officers				53334	14	0
					131658	11	2
	deduct money paid				9806	15	4
					121851	15	0
	The total claims of the undisbanded Regiments				11069	18	0
					132921	13	10
p. 13.	Samuel Cardell, as Agent or Attorney for Col. John Michelborne claims for the said Michelborne's pay as Governor of Londonderry for 980 days 1 July 1689 to 7 March 1691–2 at 20s. per diem				980	0	0
					£133901	13	10
	In justification of the above last items it appears by a certificate of the Officers and inhabitants of Londonderry dated 4 Sept. 1708 that upon the death of Col. Henry Baker 30 June 1689 Michelborne was unanimously chosen Governor of the said city by the whole garrison on the next day, being the 1st July 1689.
	After Major General Kirke had relieved the city he gave Michelborne a commission to be Governor thereof 3 Aug. 1689 till their Majesties' further order and he continued Governor until superseded by Sir Mathew Bridges 7 March 1701–2. In a report from Mr. William Sloper of the [Army] Paymaster's Office to a Committee of the House of Commons dated 19 Jan. 1705–6 (fn. 6) Michelborne's pay from 18 June 1689 (the time he took upon him the government of Londonderry by reason of Col. Baker's sickness) amounts to 992l. But if it be allowed only from the time of his commission viz. 3 Aug. 1689 it will amount only to 947l.
Ibid., p. 15.	The Enniskillen Claims.
					£	s.	d.
	Capt. Richard Newstead, William Hamell and Henry Hamell, executors of Col. Hugh Hamell, claim the sum of 71,522l. 11s. 7¾d. for the Officers and soldiers of the 6 Enniskillen Regiments as follows, to wit from 20 July 1689 the date of their commissions to 1 Jan. 1689–90 the day they were put upon the Establishment being 165 days: viz.
	Col. William Wolseley's Regiment of Horse consisting of 24 Troops of 50 men each at 211l. 10s. 4d. per diem less 1745l. 3s. 0d. for Poundage and 95l. 9s. 2¾d. for part of a day's pay				33059	15	6¼
	more for one Troop not appearing to be mustered				1394	14	4
	Sir Albert Cunningham's Regiment of Dragoons of 8 Troops of 60 men each at 55l. 12s. 8d. per diem less 458l. 19s. 8d. for Poundage and 24l. 19s. 6½d. for part of a day's pay				8695	19	2½
	Col. James Wynn's Regiment of Dragoons of the like Troops and men at 53l. 18s. 2d. per diem less 444l. 14s. 10½d. for Poundage and 24l. s. 3d. for part of a day's pay				8425	18	4½
	Col. Zach. Tiffin's Regiment of Foot of 13 Companies of 60 men each for 104 days from 20 July to 31 Oct. at 43l. 11s. 8d. per diem, less 226l. 12s. 8d. for Poundage and 12l. 10s. 4d. for part of a day's pay				4293	10	4
	ditto for the remaining 61 days to 31 Dec. 1689 at 41l. 12s. 4d. per diem, less 126l. 18s. 6¾d. for Poundage and 6l. 18s. 8¾d. for part of a day's pay				2404	15	0½
	Col. Thomas Lloyd's Regiment of Foot of like number at 41l. 12s. 10d. per diem for 104 days as above less 216l. 8s. 1½d. for Poundage and 11l. 19s. 1¼d. for part of a day's pay				4099	15	5¼
	ditto for 61 days as above at 43l. 13s. 8d. per diem, less 133l. 4s. 8¼d. for Poundage and 7l. 5s. 0d. for a day's pay				2524	3	11¾
T 38/798, p. 15.	Col. Gustavus Hamilton's Regiment of Foot afterwards Col. Creichton's of the like numbers but without musters				6623	19	5
					£71522	11	7¾
Ibid., p. 16.	"Upon which we humbly observe that the said Regiments having voluntarily assembled about 1 Jan. 1688–9 and taken up arms for defence of their religion, laws and liberties" were formed into Regiments by General Kirk by King William's orders and had Commissions dated 20 July 1689 and did considerable service in several engagements with the enemy particularly on 30 July and 27 Sept. 1689.
	The House of Commons in Ireland found their case true and laid it before the Earl of Pembroke who acquainted her Majesty with it, who recommended their case by Mr. Secretary Harley to the House but a prorogation soon ensuing the House came to no resolutions therein. (fn. 7) Such of the Enniskilling Regiments as joined the English Army were mustered by order of the Duke of Schomburg in Sept. and Oct. 1689 and such as had not joined them were mustered in their quarters soon after the decampment of the Army.
	An abstract remaining in the Commissary General's Office in Ireland of a muster taken at the camp at Dundalk in Sept. 1689 by General Schonberg's order shows only 17 Troops of Col. Wolseley's Regiment of Horse and there are [muster] rolls remaining in the said Office but for 15 Troops and even those not closed for any time.
	By another abstract of a muster taken of the said Regiments for the months of Nov. and Dec. 1689 it does not appear that more than 24 Troops were mustered and rolls remain in the said Office but for 12 Troops and closed for 61 days ending 31 Dec. 1689.
	Col. James Wynn's Regiment of Dragoons consisted of 8 Troops; by an abstract of a muster taken in Sept. 1689 by the Duke of Schomburg's orders only 4 Troops appear mustered and the rolls not closed for any time. By the abstract of a muster taken 1 Oct. 1689 not more than 4 Troops appear mustered. By an abstract of a muster taken in their quarters for November and December 1689 there were 8 Troops mustered.
	By an abstract remaining in the Muster Master General's Office it appears that Tiffin's and Lloyd's Foot Regiments were mustered in Sept. and Oct. 1689 but no rolls closed or remaining.
Ibid., p. 17.	Cunningham's Dragoons were mustered in the quarters for Nov. and Dec. 1689 but no rolls remaining. These musters and the dates of commissions are imperfect, there have been great mistakes, neglect or miscarriages in the Commissary General's Office, which is owned by two certificates of Mr. Francis Harrison, Deputy Commissary General, dated 14 Sept. 1708.
	Of Gustavus Hamilton's Foot Regiment we find no muster rolls or abstracts of musters in the Commissary General's Office but the Officers' commissions are certified by the Deputy Commissary General there to be all dated 20 July 1689. King William thought fit to form a Regiment of Horse. 2 of Dragoons and 3 of Foot out of the Inniskillen Forces and made an Establishment for the same to commence from 1 Jan. 1689–90 as follows:
	one Regiment of Horse of 12 Troops each of 50 Troopers.
	two Regiments of Dragoons each of 8 Troops of 60 Dragoons per Troop.
	three Regiments of Foot each of 13 Companies of 60 men per Company.
	According to this Establishment we have computed the full pay of the 6 Enniskillen Regiments as are certified to be mustered either at the Camp at Dundalk in Sept. or Oct. 1689 or in their quarters after the decampment, for the months of November and December 1689 according to the effective numbers contained in those musters: all as follows:
	Col. Wolseley's Regiment of Horse: 24 Troops of 1167 Troopers at 206l. 18s. 4d. per diem for 61 days for Nov. and Dec. 1689				12621	18	4
	It is alleged that 17 Troops of this Regiment were mustered in Sept. 1689 but no such muster has been certified to us from the Deputy Commissary General.
Ibid., p. 18.	Col. Cunningham's Regiment of Dragoons: 8 Troops of 467 men at 55l. 3s. 8d. per diem for 61 days ut supra				3366	3	8
	Col. Wynn's Regiment of Dragoons of 8 Troops of 444 men at 53l. 12s. 2d. per diem for 61 days ut supra				3270	2	2
	Col. Lloyd's Regiment of Foot of 13 Companies of 721 men for 61 days for Sept. and Oct. in case that muster is to govern for those 2 entire months, the rolls or muster not being closed for any determinate time				2514	4	4
	ditto for 765 men at 43l. 5s. 8d. per diem for 61 days of Nov. and Dec. 1689				2640	5	8
	Col. Tiffin's Regiment of Foot of 13 Companies of 762 men at 43l. 3s. 2d. per diem for 61 days for Sept. and Oct. 1689 in case etc. ut supra				2632	13	2
	for 721 men at 41l. 4s. 4d. per diem for 61 days for Nov. and Dec. 1689				2514	4	4
					£29559	11	8
	Memorandum. Col. Gustavus Hamilton's Regiment of Foot (afterwards Col. Creichten's) is alleged to have consisted of the same numbers with Col. Lloyd's but the Commissary General's Office certifies no musters or abstracts of musters but only the entry of 9 commissions in that Regiment, viz. the Colonel's, 2 Lieutenants, 5 Ensigns and one Quarter Master.
	If the computations abovementioned are to govern before the times of these musters viz. from 20 July 1689 (the dates of their commissions) there would be further due for 104 days from 20 July 1689 to 21 Oct. as follows:
Ibid., p. 19.	Col. Wolseley's Regiment (exclusive of the 25th Troop) at 206l. 18s. 0d. per diem				21519	6	8
	Col. Cunningham's at 55l. 3s. 8d. per diem				5739	1	4
	Col. Wynn's at 53l. 12s. 2d. per diem				5575	5	4
	Col. Lloyd's for 43 days from 20 July 1689 to Aug. 31 at 41l. 4s. 4d. per diem				1855	16	2
	Col. Tiffin's Regiment for the same 43 days at 43l. 3s. 2d. per diem				1772	6	4
	Col. Gustavus Hamilton's according to the numbers etc. of Col. Lloyd's Regiment for the full 104 days				6926	16	4
					43388	12	2
	adding the former sum				29559	11	8
	full pay				£72948	3	10
	We are informed by Lieut. Gen. Echlyn, who was Lieut. Col. to Sir Albert Cunningham's Regiment of Dragoons during the time of this claim, that the said Cunningham's Regiment had subsistence to about 2000l. which was deducted after their being established 1 January 1689–90, and their clothes which they had before their Establishment were deducted out of their pay, and arms were charged to them which they never had and that the reason why they had no musters but in November and December was because the Commissaries durst not come to them.
T38/798, p. 20.	As to the moneys paid to these 6 Regiments, Mr. Moody, Deputy Auditor of the Imprests in Mr. [Edward] Harley's Office, certifies that there had been paid to them as follows upon account of their pay from 20 July 1689 to 1st January following; and Mr. Bythell, Deputy Auditor in Mr. Mainwaring's Office, certifies a week's subsistence more paid to each of the six Regiments to 23 Dec. 1689 and for Lloyd's Regiments two weeks to 30 Dec. 1689: all as follows (combining the two Deputy Auditors' certificates)
	Col. Wolseley's Regiment				5410	6	6
	Col. Wynn's Regiment				1459	2	4
	Col. Cunningham's Regiment				1023	15	0
	Col. Hamilton's Regiment				1261	16	8
	Col. Lloyd's Regiment				1350	12	11
	Col. Tiffin's Regiment				1252	18	9
					11758	12	2
	which being deducted from the said 72,948l. 3s. 10d. (in case all that sum be allowed) would leave due to the six Regiments				£61189	11	8
	But Mr. Moody notes that what other sums may have been paid to these Regiments in Ireland or elsewhere or what clothing, provisions or other necessaries may have been furnished to them or whether they were not cleared by debenture [on forfeited lands] to the year 1699 with the rest of the Army does not appear to the said Auditors.
	Total of Londonderry claims				133901	13	10
	Total of Enniskillen claims				61189	11	8
					£195091	5	6
p. 21.	Other Irish Claims.
	The 17 Bridgemen belonging to the Tin boats.
					£	s.	d.
	Daniel Gibson, attorney for 17 Bridgemen belonging to the Tin boats commanded by Capt. Finna or Finnard alias Van Erp in the late wars in Ireland, claims for each of them viz.;
	John Dinwood				6	9	7
	Nich. Cooper				6	9	7
	John Anderson				6	9	7
	Thomas Haskins				6	9	7
	Thomas Davis				6	9	7
	Denis Rabutty				6	9	7
	Robert Deane				6	9	7
	William Bradford				6	9	7
	Alexander Gordon				6	9	7
	Peter Clincumbury				6	9	7
	John Stapleton				6	9	7
	John Kennedy				6	9	7
	Henry Drinkmilk				6	9	7
	Thomas Dinwoody				6	9	7
	Robert Harrison				6	9	7
	George Burgett or Burkett				6	9	7
	Henry Mathews				6	9	7
					£110	2	11
Ibid., p. 21.	By four certificates dated 12 Jan. 1691–2 Commissary Adrien Koen declares that to balance the account of salary to 31 Dec. 1691 new style with the payments made, deductions for provisions, clothes and poundage the above sum is due to the said 17 persons pursuant to accounts adjusted.
Ibid., p. 22.	The 17 persons have also each made oath before the Lord Mayor of Dublin 10 Feb. and 16 Feb. 1709–10 that said sums are due for their services in belonging to the Tin boats in the Train of Artillery for the reduction of Ireland above all money, provisions and clothes received by them and that they served under Capt. Finnard during the whole time of the service until the reduction of Limerick and were broke about Xmas after.
	And on 10 March 1709–10 Capt. Thomas Newton late assistant Paymaster to the Train of Artillery during the reduction of Ireland certifies that he knows there is justly due to them the above sums and on 6 June 1710 the said Newton made oath before a Justice of Peace for Co. Devon that he had
T38/798, p. 22.	always paid the said 17 persons for their several services for the years 1690 and 1691 and that the said sums were justly due.
	And it is certified from the Earl of Ranelagh's Office by Mr. Simon Sloper 3 March 1709–10 that none of the said 17 persons (which he recites by name) were certified by the late Commissioners of Army Accounts, nor any money, debenture or otherwise issued to them by the Earl of Ranelagh.
	"We endeavoured to inform ourselves of this claim from the Board of Ordnance but were answered that they knew nothing of that matter; having never transacted in that account of Ireland."
Ibid., p. 23,	The 12 Wherrymen.
	The said Daniel Gibson for the 12 wherrymen belonging to the 3 wherries attending the Train of Artillery in Ireland claims the following sums upon the balance of their accounts for 600 days at 12d. a day each being 30l. each whereof they have received 10l. 17s. 6d. leaving due to each as follows:
	James Hanna				19	2	6
	Hugh Gill alias Gilmore				19	2	6
	Charles Cample				19	2	6
	Gilbert Keane				19	2	6
	John Ravellin				19	2	6
	John Carnes				19	2	6
	Patr. Cassedy				19	2	6
	William Ralph				19	2	6
	John Dod				19	2	6
	John Talbot				19	2	6
	William Burne				19	2	6
	Clament Codd				19	2	6
					£229	10	0
	To support the claim, affidavit was made before the Lord Mayor of London 19 Feb. 1709–10; also a certificate from the beforesaid Capt. Thomas Newton dated 7 March 1709–10 that he always paid the said wherrymen and that the claim is due.
Ibid., p. 24.	The Conductor, Clerk of the Stores and 5 labourers.
	The said Daniel Gibson claims 221l. 15s. 4½d. for the above 7 persons as follows:
	William Gerrard, Conductor for 537 days from 6 July 1690 to 22 Dec. 1691 at 2s. 6d. per diem 67l. 2s. 6d. less 12l. 12s. 0d. received from Adrian Koen				54	10	6
	Thomas Clerk, one of the clerks of the stores for 535 days at 2s. 6d. per diem 66l. 17s. 6d., less 5l. 12s. 0d. paid				61	5	6
	Andr[ew] McKewin, carman for himself, horse and car for 365 days at 3s. a day 54l. 15s. 0d. less 15l. paid				39	15	0
	Isaac Lowe, for himself, horse and cart for 99 days at 3s. a day 14l. 17s. 0d., less 3l. 0s. 1½d. paid				11	16	10½
	Hen. Bushell, porter of the stores of war, for 2 years or 730 days at 12d. a day 36l. 10s. 0d. whereof 19l. 10s. 0d. paid				17	0	0
	Robert Boyde, the like whereof 16l. 7s. 0d. paid				20	3	0
	John Lawson, the like whereof 19l. 5s. 6d. paid				17	4	6
					£221	15	4½
	Each of the above 7 persons has made oath before the Lord Mayor of Dublin 16 Nov. 1709 that the above sums remain due to them for service in the stores of war for the reduction of Ireland over and above all sums received by them.
Ibid., p. 25.	The claim is supported by the certificate from the aforesaid Capt. Thomas Newton dated 7 March 1709–10 and by certificates of Mr. Simon Sloper of the Earl of Ranelagh's Office that no money, debenture or otherwise has been issued for the claim of these 7 or the preceding 12 wherry men.
	But what deductions are to be made for provisions, clothes and poundage does not appear to us.
T 38/798, p. 26.	The Pioneers.
	The said Daniel Gibson further claims 165l. 7s. 2d. as follows for 35 Pioneers under the command of Capt. John Owen belonging to the Train of Artillery in the Reduction of Ireland: by virtue of a letter of attorney to the said Gibson dated 1 March 1709–10 from them or their widows, being for pay clear of all deductions: viz.
	John Brooks				3	19	11
	Jonas Boncroft				3	19	11
	Thomas Carrowen				3	19	11
	Robert Cregg				3	19	11
	William Davis				3	19	11
	Edward Dyson				3	19	11
	Edward Fossett				3	19	11
	Robert Gibson				3	19	11
	Peter Goldsbery				3	3	11
	Owen Jones				3	19	11
	John Ivory				3	3	11
	Gilbert Kennell				3	19	11
	Terence King				3	19	11
	John Kennedy				8	1	11
	Andrew Carr				8	2	11
	John Lord				3	19	11
	Thomas Lowden				3	19	11
	Brice McMullen				15	8	0
	John McLaughlin				3	19	11
	Thomas Overend				3	19	11
	Anth[ony] Pritchett				3	19	11
	William Parry				7	1	11
	Roger Powell				3	12	11
	Daniel Ryan				3	19	11
	John Roberts				3	19	11
	John Smith				6	1	11
	Thomas Spolton				3	19	11
	Henry Thompson				3	19	11
	Daniel Townley				3	19	11
	William Thomas				3	14	11
	James Thoborne				7	12	11
	Robert Walker				3	19	11
	Peter Williams				3	19	11
	Richard Williams				3	19	11
	Richard Watts				3	19	11
					£165	7	2
Ibid., p. 27.	To justify this claim the said Gibson exhibited an account stated by the Commissioners of the Army Accounts in Ireland of the full pay of the 2 Companies of Pioneers under the command of Capt. John Owen; and a certificate from the Earl of Ranelagh's Office dated 27 March 1710 mentioning who of the said 2 Companies received debentures for their pay clear of all deductions and another like certificate dated 18 March 1709–10 that the above 35 Pioneers had neither money nor debentures issued to them by the said Earl for their said service. Total for the [Train]:
	17 Bridgemen				110	2	11
	12 Wherrymen				229	10	0
	Conductor, Clerk of Stores and 5 labourers				221	15	4½
	35 Pioneers				165	7	2
					£726	15	5½
Ibid., p. 29.	Physicians, Chyrurgeons, Apothecaries and clerks of the Hospitals for sick and wounded during the late War in Ireland: as stated by the Commissioners for Army Accounts in Ireland and certified by them at several times between March 1691–2 and June 1693 and allowed of by the House of Commons of Great Britain and by them passed into a bill in the session 1707–8. (fn. 8)
	Sir Patrick Dun, one of the Physicians attending the said Hospital				436	16	8
	Dr. [Duncan] Cumming, another of the Physicians				394	0	0
	Thomas Proby, Master Chyrurgeon				208	10	0
T 38/798, p. 29.	Dr. Victor Ferguson				68	12	11
	John Purvis, Master Surgeon				178	10	0
	Thomas Chetwynd, apothecary				142	8	0
	Nathaniel Boyce [Boyse]: clerk [of the fixed and moving Hospitals]				121	3	0
	Charles Chambers, apothecary				76	14	0
	John Otey [Ottey], Surgeon's mate				43	4	0
	William Hamilton, ditto				47	8	0
	William Budden, ditto				48	15	0
	Peter Roscoe, ditto				48	18	0
	James Tindall, apothecary				24	6	0
	John Young, Surgeon and Purveyor				111	7	4
	Robert Braman, late chyrurgeon's mate to the Royal Hospital in Ireland: on the balance of his account for 629 days' service from 1 March 1689–90 to 19 Nov. 1691 at 3s. per diem: as certified by the Commissioners of Accounts in Ireland 15 March 1691–2: "the original certificate still standing out"				55	1	2
	Quintin Osburn, late one of the chirurgeon's mates to the Royal Hospital in Ireland, on the balance of his account for 488 day's service from 20 July 1690 to 19 Nov. 1691 at 3s. per diem as similarly certified 15 March 1691–2 "the original certificate still standing out"				36	12	0
Ibid., p. 30.	Peter Chambon, late one of his Majesty's apothecaries mates in the Hospitals in Ireland, upon the balance of his account upon the dissolution of the Marching Hospitals there in 1692; certified by Mr. Luke King, Deputy Treasurer of "the said Hospital" that a debenture for 62l. 13s. 0d. was made out for the said arrear, which the Lord Coningsby certifies to have been delivered to him but that it was lost or mislaid; and affidavit made by the said Peter Chambon that it is unpaid				62	13	0
					£2104	19	1