Treaty Papers: Miscellaneous 1585

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Miscellaneous 1585

Mechlin.
July 6/16. Treaty with the city of Mechlin, made between the Marquis de Renty, Baron de Montigny, governor, captain-general and grand baily of Hainault, and the Sieur de Famars and captains of the garrison of Mechlin.
Copy. 2¼ pp. [Treaty Papers XXXIII. 44.]
The United Provinces.
Documents in relation to the Treaty between Queen Elizabeth and the States General, concluded on Aug. 10–20, 1585.
[June 7 ?] M. V[alcke's] answer to the articles propounded to him touching the state of the United Provinces, concerning the following points:—
1. The chief men of mark in Holland and Zeeland.
M. d'Asperen. M. de Poelgheest.
M. de Swieten. M. de Wingaerde.
M. de Cloeting (of the house of Brederode). M. de Souteroon.
M. de Bronkhorst.
M. de Shaegen, “par bastardise ” of the house of Bavaria. M. de Oosterwike.
M. de Roon.
2. “Divers of credit” in anno 1567, now dead or revolted [15 names].
3. Captains and Councillors of account.
“There hath served as soldiers very constantly and faithfully in Holland, Captain Mornan and Colonel Michel.”
Councillors. St. Aldegonde, Villiers, Paul Buys.
4. Townsmen.
5. Men of account in Brabant.
Baron de Peetersen [Petershem], father-in-law to the Marquis of Berghes; Sieur de Save[n]them; Sieur de Duffele; Oirschot. Alostanus, burgomaster; Martiny, greffier, and Vandewerke, pensioner of Antwerp.
6. Contributions of the Low Countries.
“He saith plainly that he thinks they will come short in performance “ of their offer of 300,000 gilders per mensem.
7. Imposts &c. which might be levied.
8. Causes why more does not come to the common purse, viz:—
Dishonesty of the officials who levy them; multitude of superfluous officers (as a commissary of musters to each town, &c.); the “partiality” of the towns and provinces, keeping their contributions to their own use; “the general corruption of the States, which have sought to enrich themselves by the common purse.”
9. Men fit to be employed in finance.
Taffin, Sieur de la Pré, born at Tournay. Jacques Reingout, an Antwerpian, “advanced by the Spaniard, yet used by the Prince of Orange.” Hessels, greffier of Brabant and treasurer-general of finances in Monsieur's time; some think “fitter for law matters,”
10. Domains of the United Provinces,
11. Church lands.
12. Offices, estates and prerogatives due to the Prince.
N.B.—That good towns must be secured to the Queen.
That articles of ratification of things done in times past must only include lawful acts of the generalty.
To agree for an assembly of the States to be held presently.
To have some of the Councillors of State of her own nation.
The deputies to bring ample commission to conclude.
Endd. 3½ pp. [Treaty Papers XXXIII. 45.]
June 29./July 9. “Reasons delivered by the Deputies to move her Majesty to accept of the sovereignty of the Low Countries.”
Begins. ” Les Deputez des Estats des Provinces Unis du Pays Bas ayant entendu . . . qu'icelle seroit deliberée d'entendre à la deffense desdits pays. . .”
Endd. “Pourveu que vostre Majesté use de son auctorité . . . sur lesdicts pays et peuples, et que les subjects d'icelle soient gouvernez . . . en l'obeissance de vostre Majesté, non plus ne moins que si vostre Majesté acceptait la principalité ou souveraineté desdicts pays, suivant les offres et presentations desdicts Estats.”
Endd. as above. Fr. 1¾ pp. [Ibid. XXXIII. 46.]
Cf. “Verioog door de Gedeputeerden &c.” in the Archives of the Hague, largely cited by Motley.
Another copy of the same.
Fr. 2½ pp. [Ibid. XXXIII. 47.]
Articles exhibited by the Deputies of the States.
“Englished.” Endd. 7 pp. [Ibid. XXXIII. 48.]
Another paper, with many differences, endorsed “ The offers of the deputies of the Low Countries and their demands.” Fr. 3 pp. [Ibid. XXXIII. 49.]
[June 30.] “Postills “ to the above offers of the States.
Endd. 2 pp. [Ibid. XXXIII. 50.]
Points to be resolved upon by the Commissioners.”
1. What numbers are entertained in pay. of what nation, how employed, and what is the monthly charge thereof. Who commands their forces in every place.
2. What principal persons they have fit for the chief places of an army.
3. Who are Governors in the several provinces; what is their entertainment and what garrisons have they in pay.
4. The same question in relation to the towns.
5. Will the Provinces make some “advancemen” beforehand that the bands serving in the field may receive their monthly pay.
6. At what rate the soldiers may be victualled in camp, paying ready money.
7. In what province they will keep their camp after the enterprise for the bridge is ended. What provision is to be had for horses.
8. What ships they can put in readiness to serve on the seas.
9. At what charges these may be maintained.
10. How they intend to continue their traffic with Spain and other countries.
11. That their moneys current may be reduced into one standard, and not changed without allowance of the English Council. What forces the enemy hath, and how bestowed.
Draft, partly by Burghley. 1 p. [Treaty Papers XXXIII. 51.]
July 3. Reply of the Deputies of the United Provinces to the proposals of her Majesty's Council.
With marginal notes by Burghley and endorsed by him “ The Deputies' answers to certain questions. Holland and Zeeland.”
Fr. 3¼ pp. [Ibid. XXXIII. 52.]
[Dated July 5 by Burghley, but the following papers show that it should be the 3rd.]
July 3. A “brief,” by Burghley, of the answer of the Deputies, delivered on July 3rd at Secretary Walsingham's.
1. Their forces consist of 200 companies of foot, 30,000 at 150 to a company; and 25 cornets of horse, making 2,000.
2. Each company of 150 paid 1,700 florins the month; those of 200 being paid 2,111 florins.
Each cornet of horse of 100 lances paid 3,000 florins; of 100 pistolets, 2,500 florins; of 100 carabines, 2,000 florins.
3. The conductors of the men of war:—
Philip Count of Hohenloe, lieutenant-general under Maurice Count of Nassau; Adolf Count of Neuenaar; William Count of Nassau; Philip Count of Nassau; the Count of Solms; the Baron of Hohensaxe; the Sieur de Villiers.
4. Governors of provinces:—
Gueldre, Zutphen and Overyssel. Adolf Count of Neuenaar.
Holland and Zeeland. Maurice Count of Nassau.
Utrecht. Sieur de Villiers.
Frise. William Count of Nassau.
N.B.—Every governor has 20 or 24 halbardiers or harque-busiers. Wages 12 and 10 florins a head respectively. If her Majesty will accept the sovereignty or perpetual protection, Holland, Zeeland, Utrecht and Frise will contribute for the first six months 200,000 florins per month, besides the charge of the ships, amount ing to 70,000 florins the month, so as the garrisons be paid out of the said sum, and after the first six months will contribute according to their power.
N.B.—They say that the above were in former times “taxed but to a fifth part of the rest of the provinces.”
Though Brabant, Gueldres, Flanders and Overyssel are oppressed with the enemy, “they will accord to yield somewhat according to their powers.”
They have between 60 and 70 vessels for service on the seas, costing about 60,000 florins the month, which they will pay for the six months.
The enemy has ten or twelve thousand men at the siege of Antwerp, and about Zutphen three or four thousand, and four of five thousand horsemen.
Extract out of the answer for Flanders:—
The forts of Sluys and Ostend must have 2,000 footmen and 200 horse, to the charge of 27,000 florins the month.
N.B.—They think this charge may be borne by the brantgelt to be levied of Bruges and Ghent. There is raised in the towns 3,000 florins monthly.
Endd. by Burghley with above date. 2¼ pp. [Treaty Papers XXXIII. 53.]
July 3. Notes by Burghley, endorsed with this date, of ” the charge of the whole army.”
2 pp. [Ibid. XXXIII. 54.]
July 3. Notes by the deputies, endorsed (partly by Burghley) “The estate of an army for the Low Countries, at the charge of 236,000 [florins] for six months.”
Fr. 1¼ pp. [Ibid. XXXIII. 35.]
July 3. “Extract ” by Burghley, of the preceding paper.
1⅓ pp. [Ibid. XXXIII. 56.]
July 13. Mr. Vice-Chamberlain's notes touching the treaty with the States' Commissioners.
In 22 Hen. VI, a commission was granted by the King to Thomas Kent, Robert Worsley and William Cottesbrooke, to treat with the commissioners of Holland, Zeeland and Frise.
The commission from the Duke of Burgundy for these States, dated April 3, 1445, was to Henry Utenhawe, Bartholomew Eton, Theodorick Weere, Lodovick Domessent, the secretary of the Duke.
Treaty made at Bruges, ratified by Philip, Duke of Burgundy, the August following.
In the famous treaty of Intercourse, anno. 1495, between Henry VII and Philip of Burgundy, not only the princes but others are bound for performance of the treaty, to observe every article thereof, and to minister justice against them that do anything to the contrary. “ So as her Majesty and this crown stand not only bound to the King but also to the States of his country.”
The King of Spain holds the Low Countries not as an absolute prince but as a vassal unto others, namely the Empire; viz. the Dukedom of Brabant, the Counties of Holland, Zeeland and country of Friseland, the Dukedom of Guelderland, the bishopric of Utrecht &c. And so cannot dispose of them at his pleasure.
Endd. with date by Burghley. 1 p. [Treaty Papers XXXIII. 57.]
July 13. Paper, entirely in Burghley's hand, entitled “Certain things to be considered in conjunction with the deputies of the States of Holland.”
That her Majesty finds their demand “of a third part of the charges set down by them” so excessive that she cannot assent to it, but if it be reduced to a charge tolerable, having respect to other far greater charges to which she and her people will be subject, she will yield to it.
[Reasons for “ mislike” of the demand, as regards the army, garrisons, defence of Gueldres, Flanders and Zutphen, ships &c.] Also it is necessary to understand the contributions and how levied, the charge of collection, the continuance of the support, the causes of her great charges.
“Lastly they are to be informed the causes why her Majesty must in this matter provide not to be so over-charged, but that she must of necessity answer this war, which she knoweth [not] how great it will be, nor how many 'mo' enemies she may have than the King of Spain; and sure she is to have no friends to join with her; so as by entering into this quarrel, she shall first be sure of as great a war as the King of Spain can make upon her by sea and by land. And, therefore, she must defend first Ireland both by sea and land, because it is nearest to Spain.
“England also hath large scope to be defended; and what may happen to France, being now at the devotion of the house of Guise and all other papists there, cannot be but feared, and by these means also her Majesty must needs have respect to Scotland, from whence the house of Guise will doubtless procure all offence to the Queen that can be.
“So as the commissioners are to consider that her Majesty for this quarrel is to sustain a greater war than ever in any memory of man 'it' hath done.”
[Rough notes concerning payments to soldiers &c.]
Endd. also by Burghley: “13 July, 1585, at Mr. Secretary's.” 4 pp. [Ibid. XXXIII. 58.]
Further considerations, by Lord Burghley.
That there shall be a Council for Wars, of persons of knowledge and patriotism; a nobleman of England to be president and two or three members to be “ named for the Queen.”
In the States General, two or three of her Council to be present and have voice.
In every province chargeable for subsidies, her Majesty to have a superintendant “to see to the due order of the finances.” And to have authority “from time to time to appoint some to see to the due administration of justice.”
What towns and ports shall be yielded to her.
In what sort they will yield the protection to her and with what conditions.
That all officers eligible by the Council of State shall be “allowable” by her and sworn to obey her and her officers.
Towns of caution. Sluys, Flushing with the Rammekins, Brill.
No treaty or truce to be made without allowance by her Majesty or her lieutenant.
The money promised monthly by the countries to be “ performed.”
The towns to be “gaged” for performance of all covenants and restitution of moneys already lent or to be hereafter spent by her Majesty.
That if more money be required for this service, the States covenant to procure a larger assessment.
To enquire concerning forces, commanders, shipping &c. [as on p. 702 above]. Also what forces the enemy hath, where they are bestowed and who commands them.
How they think the enemy may be repelled and Antwerp relieved. How they levy their pays (?) in Holland of victuals and other things bought and sold. The imposition in lieu of the hundredth and the fiftieth penny, which comes to 50,000 florins per month.
Who commands in each garrison town.
The garrison at Flushing.
Draft, in Burghley's hand. Endd. 7 pp. [Treaty Papers XXXIII. 59.]
Demands to be made to the Deputies of the United Provinces. That her Majesty shall have absolute authority in civil and military matters; power to appoint a Council of War, and to place all governors and absolute direction of wars &c.
The deputy to be assisted by a Council of State, part of which shall be English; with conditions concerning appointment of officers, payment of troops &c.
2 pp. [Ibid. XXXIII. 60.]
Notes by Walsingham of points “to be propounded to the Commissioners of the Low Countries.''
1. Her Majesty to resolve touching the first article, for the 5,000 footmen and 1,000 horse.
2. To know at whose appointment the General shall be.
3. To stand touching the ten years' continuance of the possession of the cautionary towns.
4. To be cleared touching the said article for the charges of the increase of the garrisons.
5. To procure a dispensation touching the payment of the ” sesses.”
Endd. ½ p. [Ibid. XXXIII. 61.]
Copies of: 1. The Further considerations [see p. 705 above]; noted as drawn and written by Lord Burghley with his own hand. 2. Of Mr. Vice-Chancellor's Note touching the Treaty with the States. 3. Of Demands to be made to the Deputies. 4. Of “Things to be remembered,” drawn and written by Secretary Walsingham with his own hand [i.e. the paper calendared above].
6½ pp. [Treaty Papers XXXIII. 62.]
Another copy of the same. One of the Conway papers.
[Ibid. XXXIII. 63.]
July 14. “The project of a treaty sent from the commissioners by Mr. Davison.”
Endd and dated by Burghley. Fr. 3¼ pp. [Ibid. XXXIII. 64.]
July 14. Summary by Burghley of the answer brought by Mr. Davison.
1. They declare that their charge is to demand aid from her Majesty of 5,000 foot and 1,000 horse.
2. The said men of war shall make oath to the States for conservation of the country and the Religion, and to obey the commands of the States General, Council of State and General of the army. [Margin. Who shall be General.]
3. Their payment and muster to be made by the Queen's commissaries and the States.
The States shall repay all sums disbursed by her Majesty within . ten years, i.e. every year a tenth part, or sooner if they have the means. [Margin. Ten years a long payment. Interest for the forbearing after the war.]
4. Her Majesty shall have one or two towns in each province “ at her choice saving for Zeeland” and the States shall disburse ordinary charges of the garrisons now in them, but if she increases the same, the surplus to be at her charge. [Margin. Zeeland doubtful. To know what are the charges. If they be not sufficient strength.]
5. The towns to be delivered shall remain at the States' orders “concerning jurisdiction, privilege, droits, franchises, imposts, contributions, &c.;” her Majesty shall lay no impositions upon them, nor shall these garrisons be exempt from payment of imposts or assises as other garrisons. [Margin. No new imposts.]
6. The townsmen shall be [well] used, and not constrained to complain.
7. The towns shall be restored on re-imbursement of the debt, with all munitions &c. [Margin. Until the last payment.] They shall not be delivered to the King of France or any other Prince.
8. The States shall make no truce with the enemy but with consent of her Majesty. They will, beside the charge for the vessels of the seas and the garrisons, join with the Queen's forces 5,000 footmen and 1,000 horse. If, after the war, her Majesty have need of their aid, they shall be ready. [Margin. The charges of the sea to be made certain.] And she shall have in the Council of State “one or two persons of quality for assistance of the affairs of the country, so as they shall be of the religion reformed and of experience in the wars.” [Margin. The number small. Allowance to her councillors as to their own.]
9. That her Majesty shall sign this treaty.
Endd. by Burghley: “14 July. A brief of the deputies' writing sent 14 July.” 2 pp. [Treaty Papers XXXIII. 65.]
July 14. Notes of rates for horsemen and footmen in Holland, taken from the first answer of the Deputies. Endd. 1 p. [Ibid. XXXIII. 66.]
Further notes, by Burghley, of the rates of charges for horse and foot. On the last page, draft by him of the Queen's declaration (of July 17) to the Deputies, that she cannot allow of so great a charge as they demand.
Endd. 4 pp. [Ibid. XXXIII. 67.]
July 29. Copy of the Queen's commission to Lords Burghley, Leicester, Howard of Effingham, Hunsdon, Sir Eras. Knollys, Sir C. Hatton and Walsingham, to treat with the Deputies of the States General of the United Provinces.
Parchment. Endd. [Ibid. XXXIII. 68.]
Aug. 2. Provisional treaty concluded between the deputies of her Majesty and those of the States General of the United Provinces, for the succour of the city of Antwerp. Signed and sealed by all the commissioners.
Endd. Fr. Two membranes of parchment fastened together. [Treaties, CCXCI.]
Aug. 2[–12]. Abstract of the Articles of the above provisional treaty for Antwerp.
Endd. 1¼ pp. [Treaty Papers XXXIII. 69.]
“Abstract of such articles as concern the authority and charge limited to the governor to be placed by her Majesty.”
Endd. 1¼ pp. [Ibid. XXXIII. 70.]
Another paper on the same subject.
Endd. 1½ pp. [Ibid. XXXIII. 71.]
Notes of such clauses as concern the authority of her Majesty's Lieutenant General, in the point of civil government.
Endd. 1 p. [Treaty Papers XXXIII. 72.]
“Agreements and differences between the four treaties of the States . . . with her Majesty, the King of France and the two treaties with Monsieur.” Marginal notes by Burghley.
Endd. 2½ pp. [Ibid. XXXIII. 73.]
On the same subject. Apparently rough notes for the preceding paper [by Laurence Tomson].
Endd. 1 p. [Ibid. XXXIII. 74.]
“Imperfections of the contract.” Concerning the numbers and payment of troops; repayment of money disbursed by her Majesty; taking of musters &c.
Endd. 1 p. [Ibid. XXXIII. 75.]
The first draft of certain of the articles in French [by L. Tomson].
[Ibid. XXXIII. 76.]
“Controversions against certain articles.”
Endd. 2½ pp. [Ibid. XXXIII. 77.]
“Points of the treaty that concern the towns and governors of towns rendered to her Majesty.”
Endd. 3 pp. [Ibid. XXXIII. 78.]
“Additions to the Articles by the Deputies of the States, Englished.”
Endd. 2½ pp. [Ibid. XXXIII. 79.]
Aug. 10. Copy of the treaty with the United Provinces, signed on this date. Endd. Fr. 21 pp. [Ibid. XXXIII. 80.]
Another copy.
Endd. Fr. 11 pp. [Ibid. XXXIII. 81.]
Another copy, with copy of commission to Burghley and three others prefixed.
Endd. Latin and Fr. 8 pp. [Ibid. XXXIII. 82.]
Another copy, in Leicester's Entry Book.
Fr. 12 pp. [S.P.F. Archives XC. p. 307.]
An abstract of the above treaty, by Laurence Tomson.
Endd. 6 pp. [Treaty Papers XXXIII. 83.]
A note of the first 11 articles.
Endd. 4¼ pp. [Ibid. XXXIII. 84.]
Certified copy of certain of the articles, signed by A. Oillarts. Fr. 2 pp. [Ibid. XXXIII. 85.]
Abstract of the Treaty in 17th century hand. Endd. 7 pp. [Ibid. XXXIII. 86.]
Copy of Article 16 in Williamson's hand.
½ p. [Ibid. XXXIII. 87.]
A “ Collection of considerations upon the first treaty with the States, 1585.”
Endd. 13 pp. [Ibid. XXXIII. 88.]
Feb. 27./March 9. Copy of the Articles between the Prince of Parma and the town of Brussels.—Beveren, 9 March, 1575 [sic.]
Endd. Fr. 5½ pp. [Treaty Papers V. 1.]
Feb. 28./March 10. Copy of the treaty, dated March 10, 1585.
Endd. Flemish. 10 pp. [Ibid. V. 2.]
June 8/18. Points and articles between the Prince of Parma and the Sieur de la Noue, on his liberation.—Beveren, 18 June, 1585.
Copy. Endd. Fr. 3 pp. [Ibid. V. 3.]
Aug. 7/17. “Accord between the Prince of Parma and Antwerp, for the men of war.”—Beveren, 17 August, 1585. Copy. Fr. 1 ½ pp. [Ibid. V. 4.]
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